PLANNING
Winter Camp XXXIV - 2010
Role/TaskYouthAdviser
Leader:VacantKeith King
Activities/Program:vacantJeff Rand
Kitchen:vacantEthan Rein
Newsletter:vacantMark Bollman-->
Registration/Promotion:vacantSteve Donohue

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On Friday, 30-Jul-2010 10:44:41 EDT, Ethan said
I've cooked a few more potato pancakes since this post and found them to cook slowly. I know time is an important consideration with the Winter Camp Kitchen. Shredding potatoes is a pretty slow process.
On Wednesday, 14-Jul-2010 12:37:07 EDT, K2 said
I like the sound of that. Breakfast for dinner is always a winner.
On Wednesday, 14-Jul-2010 06:58:12 EDT, Steve said
Maybe some kind of Pancake Plethora thing where we have a variety of different pancakes? We've never done Breakfsst for Dinner at Winter Camp. We probably came close on Backwards day but officially it would have been Breakfast for Snack.
On Tuesday, 13-Jul-2010 14:31:15 EDT, K2 said
I made sour cream pancakes once. They were awesome.

Only problem is they take forever to cook.
On Tuesday, 13-Jul-2010 08:08:25 EDT, Steve said
Can they be cooked quickly like real pancakes? I don't think I've ever made potato pancakes.
On Wednesday, 30-Jun-2010 09:25:59 EDT, Ethan said
I think that potato pancakes (for dinner or breakfast) would be tasty. I've been experimenting with some recipies.
On Thursday, 13-May-2010 07:18:38 EDT, Steve said
Nope, that would be new.
On Monday, 10-May-2010 09:50:10 EDT, K2 said
In addition to possibly having a chandelier in the latrine, I think having music playing would be a nice touch. Perhaps the Cantina theme? Have we ever done music in the latrine before?
On Friday, 16-Apr-2010 08:35:03 EDT, Ethan said
Way to go Steve!
On Tuesday, 13-Apr-2010 22:13:36 EDT, Steve said
And, for what it's worth, today I put on pants that used to be too small.
On Tuesday, 13-Apr-2010 22:11:53 EDT, Steve said
If you put a stamped self-addressed post card in an envelope addressed to postmaster and ask them to cancel and mail it back, it nearly always works. In my note I mentioned it was for a collection for our scout camp. Once in a while I got back some other scouting related stuff as it turned out the postmaster had a link to scouting.
On Monday, 12-Apr-2010 13:21:07 EDT, K2 said
I've started compiling a list of cities in Michigan I could potentially get postcards from. Problem is they're pretty far away. I've got a few ideas of how to work around it...
On Monday, 12-Apr-2010 10:13:17 EDT, Ethan said
I haven't made any cider, but I am getting pretty good at unicycling, which was my hobby from Winter Camp XXXII.
On Sunday, 11-Apr-2010 10:01:08 EDT, Steve said
Hey, how is anyone doing on their hobbies? might be a fun think for the Eagle Pipe to talk about hobbies and how people are doing as a promotion for next year.
On Tuesday, 30-Mar-2010 13:19:53 EST, Steve said
We can probably handle that.
On Monday, 29-Mar-2010 09:43:19 EST, K2 said
I'm in, but only if we can spell out "Don't Try This At Home" on the porch of BC.
On Monday, 29-Mar-2010 08:21:13 EST, said
I had this thought last night as I was fiddling with a recipe near the stove. Everyone has probably heard of Fahrenheit 451, named for the temperature at which paper spontaneously combusts. Well, I thought we ought to try that at Winter Camp. Then I thought, "What if we did a mythbusters theme?" Our own experiments (albeit on a smaller scale than theirs) maybe some other activities inspired by the show?

(And I looked it up, paper combusts at roughly 451 celsius. Bradbury thought Fahrenheit 451 was a better title than Celsius 451)
On Saturday, 06-Mar-2010 21:29:31 EST, K2 said
Maybe we could rig up a motion activator to your chandelier. Then whenever someone needs to go then they're all set.
On Friday, 05-Mar-2010 08:49:54 EST, Ethan said
I was thinking about the latrine. Other places would be cool as well. Maybe we could try out sqaw point at an ordeal. It's electric. We could rig up some battery power for it out there, I suppose.
On Thursday, 04-Mar-2010 12:43:24 EST, K2 said
I for one always thought Squaw Point could use some class. Maybe a chandelier would spurce the place up a bit. I mean, it already has a table.
On Wednesday, 03-Mar-2010 22:34:58 EST, Steve said
I think it would be cool if we could put it somewhere, hook it up solar and leave it for awhile. Somewhere strange and wonderful. Like suspended 20 or 30' above the road or hanging from a quadrupod over the floating dock.

of course, maybe you're planning to put your chandelier to use after Winter Camp.
On Tuesday, 02-Mar-2010 10:52:48 EST, Ethan said
I now have an extra chandelier. Perhaps it can spend a weekette outside at Winter Camp XXXIV.
On Thursday, 25-Feb-2010 08:15:57 EST, Ethan said
Youth day sounds interesting. I'm for it!
On Wednesday, 24-Feb-2010 17:10:26 EST, Ethan said
Turns out I misinterpreted an octahedron as a rhombahedron. Whoops! Anyway, the design worked and it was pretty easy. I could bring it and some other designs to Winter Camp. I hear Steve makes a mean crane.
On Wednesday, 24-Feb-2010 12:29:10 EST, Steve said
Hikes can sometimes be disguised as activities. Origami sounds like fun.

I was thinking it might be fun to have a "youth day". A day where everything is done by the youth. No adults to help cook; none to ramrod activities, nothing. Kind of like retro-Winter Camp.

I think about things like Winter Camp III where basically three adults led 22 kids to cook 100 dishes. I'm concerned that we don't have chances like that anymore.
On Tuesday, 23-Feb-2010 19:26:35 EST, Ethan said
I might have come up with a good oragami activity. I found a way to make a rhombohedron from six square sheets. I hope to work on it tomorrow. Will report back with results.
On Tuesday, 23-Feb-2010 09:12:03 EST, Ethan said
A game where one must cross a river with a dog and a sheep and some food sounds like a good chance for a hike.
On Friday, 19-Feb-2010 22:26:40 EST, K2 said
Freudian slip
Bakers Dozen
Smart as a whip
Mandate of heaven
Paper Tiger
Grassroots
Pleading the fifth
Coup d'etat
Achilles heel
Acid test
Read between the lines
Big cheese
Bob's your uncle


This site has a ton :)
www.joe-ks.com/phrases/phrases.htm
On Friday, 19-Feb-2010 19:45:06 EST, K2 said
Oh oh! What about Stockholm Syndrome? Er... maybe we should keep that on the down-low...

;)
On Thursday, 18-Feb-2010 14:45:36 EST, Steve said
Could that be a theme for winter camp? Borrowed phrases? Maybe some cool words/phrases that people don't know. pyrrhic victory, parthian shot, prisoner's dilemma, etc.

Maybe another thought would be real-life logic games. Like crossing the river with a dog, sheep, and grain or the "one guy lies, one tells the truth" game. We did some of that a few years ago at a troop event and it worked pretty well.
On Tuesday, 16-Feb-2010 14:25:48 EST, Ethan said
Sounds like the phrase 'a la mode' will be hitting the Winter Camp recipe book!
On Tuesday, 16-Feb-2010 12:45:28 EST, Steve said
A gallon seems like a pretty good quantity of ice cream. Typical Winter Camp attendance would put that at just over half a cup each. Probably not enough if you're just serving ice cream but if it's with cake or something it would be good.
On Tuesday, 16-Feb-2010 10:15:06 EST, Ethan said
It makes a gallon at a time. I made a batch yesterday. Haven't tried two batches in a day. I guess that's the next thing.
On Sunday, 14-Feb-2010 21:42:08 EST, K2 said
How big is this ice cream maker? If it's anything like the one I have it's basically one batch / day. Basically you freeze the inside portion, make your ice cream and then freeze it again. My wife tells me you can't do it more than once a day (or so) because she tried doing it twice and the second batch didn't work so good.

I'm just thinking if we need more volume then I could bring my machine too (as long as I can pry it away from my wife...)
On Wednesday, 10-Feb-2010 06:52:33 EST, Steve said
Looks like we did it once before you were a member of the OA (maybe even before you were in the BSA). I'd say we're due for another try. I think our last effort was with a pretty dilapidated machine and was not very successful, but I'm not sure.
On Tuesday, 09-Feb-2010 13:14:55 EST, Ethan said
I purchased an ice cream maker today. Have we ever made ice cream at Winter Camp? I hope to do some expirementing in the near future and have some ideas come the fall.
On Wednesday, 20-Jan-2010 09:30:26 EST, K2 said
That was a close one ;)

Wow, $2100 is still a bargain considering what you're getting.
On Wednesday, 20-Jan-2010 06:36:48 EST, Steve said
Your garage is safe. Someone drove the bid up to $2100+
On Tuesday, 19-Jan-2010 10:04:01 EST, Steve said
That's why we donate it to Camp, then they can store it and use it for cub camp (themed cub camps are huge).

The price is nothing if a few of us go in on it.
On Tuesday, 19-Jan-2010 09:58:53 EST, K2 said
Also it says the current price is $611.
On Tuesday, 19-Jan-2010 09:51:40 EST, K2 said
No no no no no no.

NO!

My wife WILL kill me if we try to park that in our garage! NO! ;)
On Tuesday, 19-Jan-2010 09:38:04 EST, Steve said
My boss is suggesting we should acquire this item for Winter Camp XXXIV. The price is low and it does seem like it could be fun. Logistics might be a little challenging.

www.publicsurplus.com/sms/alpine,ut/auction/view?auc=398645
On Tuesday, 19-Jan-2010 09:38:04 EST, Steve said
My boss is suggesting we should acquire this item for Winter Camp XXXIV. The price is low and it does seem like it could be fun. Logistics might be a little challenging.

www.publicsurplus.com/sms/alpine,ut/auction/view?auc=398645
On Friday, 15-Jan-2010 20:49:25 EST, Jeff said
Ethan, sounds like you are pursuing an advance degree in Winter Camping.
On Thursday, 14-Jan-2010 08:38:58 EST, Ethan said
I used snow blocks. There is tunnel type door which involves a turn, decreasing incoming wind. Is part called a wind tunnel?
On Wednesday, 13-Jan-2010 22:27:57 EST, Jeff said
Did you build it with actual blocks and the requisite wind tunnel?
On Wednesday, 13-Jan-2010 09:09:09 EST, Ethan said
I built a back yard igloo over the last few days and slept out in it. I think that I could aggange the supplies necessary (lots of boxes) to have igloo building at Winter Camp. It might make a good free time activity. It would of course be weather dependent. I'll put some photos up on the Facebook in the next day or two, in case you're interested.
On Monday, 11-Jan-2010 09:32:03 EST, Steve said
I'm planning to upload the whole packet once I'm ready.
On Monday, 11-Jan-2010 08:05:04 EST, K2 said
Sounds like a great idea Steve. Maybe we could crowd source the winter campers by posting the existing equipment list and asking for any feedback, modifications, additions, etc?
On Sunday, 10-Jan-2010 14:27:00 EST, Steve said
I think for next year I'd like to make the registration form a two pager. One would be the current form (plus the missing ride information) and the other would be the typical equipment list plus any recommended equipment for Winter Camp XXXIV. Probably the second page would really be a two pager (front & back) with the theme "What to Expect at Winter Camp and How to 'Be Prepared' for it"

I also plan to have books ready by the end of the month.
On Friday, 08-Jan-2010 08:38:48 EST, K2 said
Excellent news Ethan, Kitchen Adviser! I expect filet mignon, lobster tails (no, not jello lobster tails, real ones!), and sparking grape juice!

But, in the likely event that doesn't fit our budget, then I guess we'll go with Plan B. I trust your judgment since you're quoted as saying... "The winter camp kitchen is a bizarre combination of thrift and extravagance". I do believe a jello lobster fits into this category.
On Thursday, 07-Jan-2010 15:24:44 EST, Steve said
The Adviser is retired! Long live the Adviser!
On Thursday, 07-Jan-2010 15:23:14 EST, Ethan said
With confidence bolstered by Doug and Steve, I declare myself adviser to the Kitchen at Winter Camp XXXIV.
On Thursday, 07-Jan-2010 12:42:47 EST, Doug said
Ethan, I'm sure you can handle it. Steve and/or Jeff have developed a Access program that turns the menu and attendance count into a food list. The main thing is to decide on the menu, portions and enter recipes for new dishes. Most of the new recipes, like Spattzle(sp?) have come from the internet lately.
On Tuesday, 05-Jan-2010 10:47:26 EST, Ethan said
I'm interested in the Kitchen job, but I'd like to talk to the past Kitchen Adviser to make sure I understand the position.
On Monday, 04-Jan-2010 13:58:58 EST, K2 said
Most of the Winter Camp Live Pictures are here:

wintercamp.kkwebprogramming.com/wcxxxiii/pics/phpshow.php
On Monday, 04-Jan-2010 13:36:30 EST, K2 said
Pictures of WCXXXIII from my phone...
picasaweb.google.com/firemouth/WinterCampXXXIII
On Monday, 04-Jan-2010 11:32:26 EST, Steve said
I could do it, but I think someone else might have the job in mind.
On Monday, 04-Jan-2010 10:46:01 EST, K2 said
Any volunteers to take charge of the kitchen?
On Sunday, 03-Jan-2010 16:14:59 EST, Ethan said
I'd like to put together a Murder Game for Winter Camp XXXIV.
On Saturday, 02-Jan-2010 12:36:23 EST, Steve said
I guess we'll have to look at your employee assessments.
On Saturday, 02-Jan-2010 12:12:51 EST, K2 said
I will take the adult adviser position.
On Saturday, 02-Jan-2010 10:42:06 EST, Jeff said
I can do activities again.
On Saturday, 02-Jan-2010 09:13:55 EST, Steve said
Any volunteers?

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